HBP - how does Nagini/Bathilda see Harry under the cloak

[DaveD]

In HBP, Harry and Hermione are under the cloak at Godric's Hollow, when
Nagini (inside Bathilda Bagshot who is presumably some weird inferius
betwitched to house the horcrux snake) follows them to the gate and beckons
to them, or at least to Harry.

So how can she see under the cloak - or is this some special snake or
horcrux power?

DaveD

[DJ]

Post by DaveD
In HBP, Harry and Hermione are under the cloak at Godric's Hollow, when
Nagini (inside Bathilda Bagshot who is presumably some weird inferius
betwitched to house the horcrux snake) follows them to the gate and beckons
to them, or at least to Harry.
So how can she see under the cloak - or is this some special snake or
horcrux power?
DaveD

Just a wild guess: extremely powerful magical beings have the ability
to detect magic where regular wizards can't. Dumbledore sets an
example of this in HBP when he and Harry are in the cave and he
figures out both how to get past the wall and where to find the
transportation designed to take you to the center where the horcrux
supposedly is. Way before that, Dumbledore could see them in CoS when
they are hiding in the corner of Hagrid's hut; Moody does so in OotP
in the bar when he and Hagrid come to the table Hermoine (and a
cloaked Harry) is sitting and also GoF, although Moody was really BCJr
when he spotted Harry with his leg stuck in the trick step, which can
only mean the magic eye of Moody's was the source of the higher
magical power, instead of Moody being exceptionally powerful himself.
I would even venture a guess Voldemort could see through the cloak if
he actually were given the opportunity. Also, unless I am mistaken,
Mrs Norris can see into the cloak as well in CoS. I could be wrong on
that last one, though.


--
DJ

[Deevo]

Post by DaveD
In HBP, Harry and Hermione are under the cloak at Godric's Hollow, when
Nagini (inside Bathilda Bagshot who is presumably some weird inferius
betwitched to house the horcrux snake) follows them to the gate and
beckons to them, or at least to Harry.
So how can she see under the cloak - or is this some special snake or
horcrux power?

Didn't she see or at least sense Arthur under Moody's cloak in OOTP as well?

[Toon]

On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 19:49:13 +0800, "Deevo"

Post by Deevo

Post by DaveD
In HBP, Harry and Hermione are under the cloak at Godric's Hollow, when
Nagini (inside Bathilda Bagshot who is presumably some weird inferius
betwitched to house the horcrux snake) follows them to the gate and
beckons to them, or at least to Harry.
So how can she see under the cloak - or is this some special snake or
horcrux power?

Didn't she see or at least sense Arthur under Moody's cloak in OOTP as well?

Was he under a cloak? I thought he was out in the open. A DE would
be less likely to attempt the theft with a guard present than if it
was unguarded.

[Lyle Francis Delp]

Post by Toon
On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 19:49:13 +0800, "Deevo"

Post by Deevo

Post by DaveD
In HBP, Harry and Hermione are under the cloak at Godric's Hollow, when
Nagini (inside Bathilda Bagshot who is presumably some weird inferius
betwitched to house the horcrux snake) follows them to the gate and
beckons to them, or at least to Harry.
So how can she see under the cloak - or is this some special snake or
horcrux power?

Didn't she see or at least sense Arthur under Moody's cloak in OOTP as well?

Was he under a cloak? I thought he was out in the open. A DE would
be less likely to attempt the theft with a guard present than if it
was unguarded.

Harry and Hermoine were polyjuiced.

[Toon]

On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 21:48:18 +0100, "DaveD"

Post by DaveD
In HBP, Harry and Hermione are under the cloak at Godric's Hollow, when
Nagini (inside Bathilda Bagshot who is presumably some weird inferius
betwitched to house the horcrux snake) follows them to the gate and beckons
to them, or at least to Harry.
So how can she see under the cloak - or is this some special snake or
horcrux power?
DaveD

Sniffs him out.

[ruairidh]

could Voldemort see through Nagini's eyes? If so could he see the sign that
appeared when Harry touched the gate?

Post by Toon
On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 21:48:18 +0100, "DaveD"

Post by DaveD
In HBP, Harry and Hermione are under the cloak at Godric's Hollow, when
Nagini (inside Bathilda Bagshot who is presumably some weird inferius
betwitched to house the horcrux snake) follows them to the gate and beckons
to them, or at least to Harry.
So how can she see under the cloak - or is this some special snake or
horcrux power?
DaveD

Sniffs him out.

[Toon]

Post by ruairidh
could Voldemort see through Nagini's eyes? If so could he see the sign that
appeared when Harry touched the gate?

He could, but was he always looking through her? Or did she contact
him when she had Harry in "her" house?

[r***@yahoo.com]

I figure pit glands or through his body heat, just like how snakes
usually find their prey.

BTW, does this mean that they were communicating in Parseltongue?

[zgirnius]

Post by r***@yahoo.com
I figure pit glands or through his body heat, just like how snakes
usually find their prey.

zgirnius:
That's what I think too. In OotP, we have described for us the
sensations of Nagini/Voldemort/Harry as they attack Arthur at the MoM
while he hides under an invisibility cloak. This involves seeing
strange, vibrant, shimmering colors. I think this is Rowling's way of
imagining or conveying the snake's IR sensing (the way night vision
photos would look to a human). So perhaps invisivility cloaks,
including Harry's very special one, only prevent seeing someone from
using regular vision in the range of light visible to humans.

[Toon]

Post by zgirnius

Post by r***@yahoo.com
I figure pit glands or through his body heat, just like how snakes
usually find their prey.

That's what I think too. In OotP, we have described for us the
sensations of Nagini/Voldemort/Harry as they attack Arthur at the MoM
while he hides under an invisibility cloak. This involves seeing
strange, vibrant, shimmering colors. I think this is Rowling's way of
imagining or conveying the snake's IR sensing (the way night vision
photos would look to a human). So perhaps invisivility cloaks,
including Harry's very special one, only prevent seeing someone from
using regular vision in the range of light visible to humans.

Well, how many people need to hide from snakes anyway? Death? Yes.
Humans? Always. Snakes? Pretty much no.

[r***@yahoo.com]

Well, how many people need to hide from snakes anyway?  Death?  Yes.
Humans?  Always.  Snakes?  Pretty much no.

Unless you're on a plane. Then you're pretty trapped.

[Toon]

Post by r***@yahoo.com

Well, how many people need to hide from snakes anyway?  Death?  Yes.
Humans?  Always.  Snakes?  Pretty much no.

Unless you're on a plane. Then you're pretty trapped.

Just App off, Grab Samuel L. Jackson, and App back on. He'd be all,
I'm so sick of all these f'en wizards apping me onto f'en planes.

[DJ]

Post by r***@yahoo.com

Well, how many people need to hide from snakes anyway?  Death?  Yes.
Humans?  Always.  Snakes?  Pretty much no.

Unless you're on a plane. Then you're pretty trapped.

Just App off, Grab Samuel L. Jackson, and App back on.  He'd be all,
I'm so sick of all these f'en wizards apping me onto f'en planes.

LMFAO! Post of the Week.

--
DJ

[Toon]

Post by r***@yahoo.com
I figure pit glands or through his body heat, just like how snakes
usually find their prey.
BTW, does this mean that they were communicating in Parseltongue?

No, I think Harry recognized it by then, and would have realized
something was up. Plus, she tended to gesture a lot.