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One thing I wonder about Hogwarts...
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BTM
2005-05-27 02:57:03 UTC
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Okay, here's my thought (and if anyone knows if they do this in REAL
British schools, let me know)

Hogwarts, magic elements aside, it's basically a school for boys and
girls 12 to 18. (IE Mostly teenagers.)

Four houses, each house has a dorm, girls on one side, boys on the
other.

Okay, the kids seem to be the ONLY ONES in the dorm. (In fact, I
don't think offhand even the teacher who's the head of the house stays
in the dorm with them.)

Let me repeat that, boys and girls ages 11 to 18 (with rampaging
hormones) UNSUPERVISED and just right ACROSS THE HALL from each other.

Does that sound like a really BAD idea to anyone else?

I mean, yes I know they're kids books and not meant as reality (and
yes, I know boys can't enter the girls dorm) but still...


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Spaminator
2005-05-27 03:13:30 UTC
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Post by BTM
Okay, here's my thought (and if anyone knows if they do this in REAL
British schools, let me know)
Hogwarts, magic elements aside, it's basically a school for boys and
girls 12 to 18. (IE Mostly teenagers.)
Four houses, each house has a dorm, girls on one side, boys on the
other.
Okay, the kids seem to be the ONLY ONES in the dorm. (In fact, I
don't think offhand even the teacher who's the head of the house stays
in the dorm with them.)
Let me repeat that, boys and girls ages 11 to 18 (with rampaging
hormones) UNSUPERVISED and just right ACROSS THE HALL from each other.
Does that sound like a really BAD idea to anyone else?
I mean, yes I know they're kids books and not meant as reality (and
yes, I know boys can't enter the girls dorm) but still...
_____________________________________________
"Are you the one telling me to beware? Cause I'll tell you where to be!"
-Master Shake, Aqua Teen Hunger Force
Well, there is the detail of the boys not being able to enter the
girl's dormatories though the girls can enter the boys 'cause they're
deemed to be more trustworthy (and I guess less hormonally driven) but
hey, if it weren't for the configuration we wouldn't have such great
adult rated fan fiction ;-)
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Spaminator
2005-05-27 03:17:05 UTC
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Post by BTM
Okay, here's my thought (and if anyone knows if they do this in REAL
British schools, let me know)
Hogwarts, magic elements aside, it's basically a school for boys and
girls 12 to 18. (IE Mostly teenagers.)
Four houses, each house has a dorm, girls on one side, boys on the
other.
Okay, the kids seem to be the ONLY ONES in the dorm. (In fact, I
don't think offhand even the teacher who's the head of the house stays
in the dorm with them.)
Let me repeat that, boys and girls ages 11 to 18 (with rampaging
hormones) UNSUPERVISED and just right ACROSS THE HALL from each other.
Does that sound like a really BAD idea to anyone else?
I mean, yes I know they're kids books and not meant as reality (and
yes, I know boys can't enter the girls dorm) but still...
_____________________________________________
"Are you the one telling me to beware? Cause I'll tell you where to be!"
-Master Shake, Aqua Teen Hunger Force
On a more serious note, McGonagol (I hate trying to remember the
spelling for her name) does show up in the dorm after "lights out" when
Ron starts yelling so it seems that the house heads either live very
close to the dorms (which I don't think is the case based on what I've
read in the books) or they have some other way of monitoring the
students. So maybe the studends can't sneak into one another's dorms
after bed time. They could meet in the common room due to studying
needs and such though (plus there isn't much privacy in the common
room)
Brand
2005-05-27 03:34:02 UTC
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Post by Spaminator
Post by BTM
Okay, here's my thought (and if anyone knows if they do this in REAL
British schools, let me know)
Hogwarts, magic elements aside, it's basically a school for boys and
girls 12 to 18. (IE Mostly teenagers.)
Four houses, each house has a dorm, girls on one side, boys on the
other.
Okay, the kids seem to be the ONLY ONES in the dorm. (In fact, I
don't think offhand even the teacher who's the head of the house stays
in the dorm with them.)
Let me repeat that, boys and girls ages 11 to 18 (with rampaging
hormones) UNSUPERVISED and just right ACROSS THE HALL from each other.
Does that sound like a really BAD idea to anyone else?
I mean, yes I know they're kids books and not meant as reality (and
yes, I know boys can't enter the girls dorm) but still...
On a more serious note, McGonagol (I hate trying to remember the
spelling for her name) does show up in the dorm after "lights out" when
Ron starts yelling so it seems that the house heads either live very
close to the dorms (which I don't think is the case based on what I've
read in the books) or they have some other way of monitoring the
students. So maybe the studends can't sneak into one another's dorms
after bed time. They could meet in the common room due to studying
needs and such though (plus there isn't much privacy in the common
room)
Not only that, but can you imagine Peeves popping in when you were
"visiting" the boys dorm and causing a commotion?
Be enough to keep me in my dorm, that's for sure
Chris Schumacher
2005-05-28 10:00:28 UTC
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Post by Spaminator
On a more serious note, McGonagol (I hate trying to remember the
spelling for her name) does show up in the dorm after "lights out" when
Ron starts yelling so it seems that the house heads either live very
close to the dorms
Is there a "lights out" though? I noticed that in the last couple of books
Harry staying in the common room all through the night had become something
of a common sight.


-==Kensu==-
richard e white
2005-05-29 08:01:32 UTC
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Post by Chris Schumacher
Post by Spaminator
On a more serious note, McGonagol (I hate trying to remember the
spelling for her name) does show up in the dorm after "lights out" when
Ron starts yelling so it seems that the house heads either live very
close to the dorms
Is there a "lights out" though? I noticed that in the last couple of books
Harry staying in the common room all through the night had become something
of a common sight.
-==Kensu==-
I think the prefects are the ones that should be telling the others to head off
to bed and Harry and co just get ignored. But I don't think hogwarts cares as
long as you are in your commen room by your years time and still make it to
classes on time.
My bet is that the lights out is only cracked down on when to many are late in
the mornings.

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Lets Hear It For Talking Computers.
juvenal
2005-06-06 23:50:23 UTC
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Traitionally, in such schools in Britain, the housemaster or mistress in
such schools (with the assistance of a matron to deal with matters like
clothes and bedding) left most discipline in common rooms and domitories to
prefects, only intervneing in the most serious cases, although that's less
common nowadays.

Some of the more famous boarding schools, such as Rugby, have now gone co-ed
from 16 onwards, with girls and boys in different dormitories. Anecdotally,
I've heard that hormonal urges in these schools usually end up being
satisfied one way or another (naturally precautions are taken). I don't
think JKR will let that happen in Hogwarts, however. I can certainly
imagine the Room of Requirement being put to use in such a fashion :)
M***@yaddayadda.com
2005-05-27 04:29:50 UTC
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The school is magical. Most boarding schools do not have co-education,
much less coed 'houses'. There are likely many more measures of
magical means taken most likely to curb such problems, combined with
the fact that the wizarding world is more old fashioned to an extent.
And as you said, it is just a childrens book, and its nice to believe
in the fantasy... I know, kids who have some measure of self disipline
or respect is kinda out there, but its nice to dream about. And they
aren't unsupervised. They have prefects, ghosts and portraits watching
over them all the time. Albus knows most things going on, if it was a
problem the school faced, he would have seperated them more.
Post by BTM
Okay, here's my thought (and if anyone knows if they do this in REAL
British schools, let me know)
Hogwarts, magic elements aside, it's basically a school for boys and
girls 12 to 18. (IE Mostly teenagers.)
Four houses, each house has a dorm, girls on one side, boys on the
other.
Okay, the kids seem to be the ONLY ONES in the dorm. (In fact, I
don't think offhand even the teacher who's the head of the house stays
in the dorm with them.)
Let me repeat that, boys and girls ages 11 to 18 (with rampaging
hormones) UNSUPERVISED and just right ACROSS THE HALL from each other.
Does that sound like a really BAD idea to anyone else?
I mean, yes I know they're kids books and not meant as reality (and
yes, I know boys can't enter the girls dorm) but still...
_____________________________________________
"Are you the one telling me to beware? Cause I'll tell you where to be!"
-Master Shake, Aqua Teen Hunger Force
To respond via email, remove the "54"
gjw
2005-05-27 06:13:30 UTC
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Post by M***@yaddayadda.com
The school is magical. Most boarding schools do not have co-education,
much less coed 'houses'. There are likely many more measures of
magical means taken most likely to curb such problems
Ah yes, the old 'Concumbo Consterno' spell, which causes an incredibly
loud, shrieking alarm to sound whenever two students begin to get
intimate... ;)
Toon
2005-05-28 10:17:37 UTC
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Post by gjw
Post by M***@yaddayadda.com
The school is magical. Most boarding schools do not have co-education,
much less coed 'houses'. There are likely many more measures of
magical means taken most likely to curb such problems
Ah yes, the old 'Concumbo Consterno' spell, which causes an incredibly
loud, shrieking alarm to sound whenever two students begin to get
intimate... ;)
Also known as a Virgin Alarm in Druish Society.
Tom A.
2005-06-07 13:58:15 UTC
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Post by Toon
Also known as a Virgin Alarm in Druish Society.
That's funny, she doesn't look Druish.

Tom A.
Toon
2005-05-27 10:01:28 UTC
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Post by M***@yaddayadda.com
The school is magical. Most boarding schools do not have co-education,
much less coed 'houses'. There are likely many more measures of
magical means taken most likely to curb such problems, combined with
the fact that the wizarding world is more old fashioned to an extent.
And as you said, it is just a childrens book, and its nice to believe
in the fantasy... I know, kids who have some measure of self disipline
or respect is kinda out there, but its nice to dream about. And they
aren't unsupervised. They have prefects, ghosts and portraits watching
over them all the time. Albus knows most things going on, if it was a
problem the school faced, he would have seperated them more.
The elves spike the food with a potion that drives hormones down.
OrionCA
2005-05-28 01:24:49 UTC
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Post by M***@yaddayadda.com
The school is magical. Most boarding schools do not have co-education,
much less coed 'houses'. There are likely many more measures of
magical means taken most likely to curb such problems, combined with
the fact that the wizarding world is more old fashioned to an extent.
And as you said, it is just a childrens book, and its nice to believe
in the fantasy... I know, kids who have some measure of self disipline
or respect is kinda out there, but its nice to dream about. And they
aren't unsupervised. They have prefects, ghosts and portraits watching
over them all the time. Albus knows most things going on, if it was a
problem the school faced, he would have seperated them more.
In GoF at the ball, Snape goes around the garden blasting students out
of the bushes and marking points off their Houses. I dunno about you
but the idea of Snape poking his wand at my nether regions at an
inopportune moment and screaming "CRUCIO!" would greatly inhibit my
libido.
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And meet them ever alike.
When you are the anvil bear,
And when the hammer strike."
Fish Eye no Miko
2005-05-28 03:10:54 UTC
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Post by OrionCA
In GoF at the ball, Snape goes around the garden blasting
students out of the bushes and marking points off their
Houses. I dunno about you but the idea of Snape poking his
wand at my nether regions
<snickers like a 12-year-old>
Post by OrionCA
at an inopportune moment and screaming "CRUCIO!" would
greatly inhibit my libido.
Oh, ya think?

Catherine Johnson.
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Mark Evans
2005-06-01 10:16:23 UTC
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Post by M***@yaddayadda.com
The school is magical. Most boarding schools do not have co-education,
much less coed 'houses'. There are likely many more measures of
magical means taken most likely to curb such problems, combined with
the fact that the wizarding world is more old fashioned to an extent.
N.B. "old fashioned" does not mean asexual. As was shown at the Yule
Ball.
Post by M***@yaddayadda.com
And as you said, it is just a childrens book, and its nice to believe
in the fantasy... I know, kids who have some measure of self disipline
or respect is kinda out there, but its nice to dream about. And they
aren't unsupervised. They have prefects, ghosts and portraits watching
over them all the time. Albus knows most things going on, if it was a
problem the school faced, he would have seperated them more.
He may not know, now that rather more students know about the room of
requirements.
Matt Frisch
2005-05-27 12:47:01 UTC
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Post by BTM
Okay, here's my thought (and if anyone knows if they do this in REAL
British schools, let me know)
Hogwarts, magic elements aside, it's basically a school for boys and
girls 12 to 18. (IE Mostly teenagers.)
Four houses, each house has a dorm, girls on one side, boys on the
other.
Okay, the kids seem to be the ONLY ONES in the dorm. (In fact, I
don't think offhand even the teacher who's the head of the house stays
in the dorm with them.)
Doesn't stay in the dorm != doesn't go into the dorm, and is also !=
doesn't supervise.

Madam Sprout is described as knowing Cedric best as his head-of-house,
assuming that he didn't have much more contact with her than Harry does
with Mcgonnagal (sp again), how exactly did she get to know him? *dum*
*dum* *duuuuuuum* the shadow knows!
Post by BTM
Let me repeat that, boys and girls ages 11 to 18 (with rampaging
hormones) UNSUPERVISED and just right ACROSS THE HALL from each other.
Does that sound like a really BAD idea to anyone else?
There is an alarm on the girls side, after all.
Post by BTM
I mean, yes I know they're kids books and not meant as reality (and
yes, I know boys can't enter the girls dorm) but still...
It does seem a little bit odd to me that they would be given so much free
reign. So odd, in fact, that I think it isn't true. There is likely some
form of supervision which takes place, likely without any knowledge of the
students. The place is crawling with house elves after all, and the
students are barely cognizant of that, leaves open the possibility of there
being quite a bit more. Heck, I bet the house ghosts have some
responsibilities there.
malcolm gray
2005-06-07 09:24:21 UTC
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Post by Matt Frisch
Post by BTM
I mean, yes I know they're kids books and not meant as reality (and
yes, I know boys can't enter the girls dorm) but still...
It does seem a little bit odd to me that they would be given so much free
reign. So odd, in fact, that I think it isn't true. There is likely some
form of supervision which takes place, likely without any knowledge of the
students. The place is crawling with house elves after all, and the
students are barely cognizant of that, leaves open the possibility of there
being quite a bit more. Heck, I bet the house ghosts have some
responsibilities there.
I cannot remember - how many paintings are in the common room and dorms?
richard e white
2005-05-28 02:11:22 UTC
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Post by BTM
Okay, here's my thought (and if anyone knows if they do this in REAL
British schools, let me know)
Hogwarts, magic elements aside, it's basically a school for boys and
girls 12 to 18. (IE Mostly teenagers.)
Four houses, each house has a dorm, girls on one side, boys on the
other.
Okay, the kids seem to be the ONLY ONES in the dorm. (In fact, I
don't think offhand even the teacher who's the head of the house stays
in the dorm with them.)
Let me repeat that, boys and girls ages 11 to 18 (with rampaging
hormones) UNSUPERVISED and just right ACROSS THE HALL from each other.
Does that sound like a really BAD idea to anyone else?
I mean, yes I know they're kids books and not meant as reality (and
yes, I know boys can't enter the girls dorm) but still...
_____________________________________________
"Are you the one telling me to beware? Cause I'll tell you where to be!"
-Master Shake, Aqua Teen Hunger Force
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I am sure that there are spells to keep an eye on them besides all the
portrets and ghosts and things. But the biggest stopper is all the other
kids. most don't want to be the main sorce of entertainment for the others.


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Richard The Blind Typer
Lets Hear It For Talking Computers.
Sylvester Foxworth
2005-06-07 05:23:50 UTC
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Post by BTM
Okay, here's my thought (and if anyone knows if they do this in REAL
British schools, let me know)
Hogwarts, magic elements aside, it's basically a school for boys and
girls 12 to 18. (IE Mostly teenagers.)
Four houses, each house has a dorm, girls on one side, boys on the
other.
Okay, the kids seem to be the ONLY ONES in the dorm. (In fact, I
don't think offhand even the teacher who's the head of the house stays
in the dorm with them.)
Let me repeat that, boys and girls ages 11 to 18 (with rampaging
hormones) UNSUPERVISED and just right ACROSS THE HALL from each other.
Does that sound like a really BAD idea to anyone else?
I mean, yes I know they're kids books and not meant as reality (and
yes, I know boys can't enter the girls dorm) but still...
_____________________________________________
"Are you the one telling me to beware? Cause I'll tell you where to be!"
-Master Shake, Aqua Teen Hunger Force
To respond via email, remove the "54"
Given that the dorms sleep 4 to a room, they are probably the least
private areas in the school, with its mystery corridors, tapestries,
nooks, crannies, the room of requirements if nothing else, .... They
can probably feel safe that the dorms are the last place anyone would
go for a bit of nookie.
--
My legs are wobbly.... it comes from the constant nagging feeling that
I'm in the wrong universe
_____
Kaname Chidori
David Galleon
2005-06-09 11:08:10 UTC
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Post by BTM
Okay, here's my thought (and if anyone knows if they do this in REAL
British schools, let me know)
Hogwarts, magic elements aside, it's basically a school for boys and
girls 12 to 18. (IE Mostly teenagers.)
Four houses, each house has a dorm, girls on one side, boys on the
other.
Okay, the kids seem to be the ONLY ONES in the dorm. (In fact, I
don't think offhand even the teacher who's the head of the house stays
in the dorm with them.)
Let me repeat that, boys and girls ages 11 to 18 (with rampaging
hormones) UNSUPERVISED and just right ACROSS THE HALL from each other.
Does that sound like a really BAD idea to anyone else?
I mean, yes I know they're kids books and not meant as reality (and
yes, I know boys can't enter the girls dorm) but still...
_____________________________________________
"Are you the one telling me to beware? Cause I'll tell you where to be!"
-Master Shake, Aqua Teen Hunger Force
To respond via email, remove the "54"
Please, the castle is Magic if you enter the room of the opposite sex
with no-nos on your mind, you immediatedly disappear and reappear in
your shower with ice cold water pouring on your now naked body.
Further, the shower will not release you from the spell till all you
want to do is go back to bed and sleep...Oh, and dream of chocolate
covered strawberries, clear blues skies, green grass and crystal pure
lakes being filled by a roaring waterfall and you laying on the grass
with your favourite broom at you side.

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