EVO
2004-06-16 12:24:46 UTC
JKR admitted that *A* particular scene in the POA movie inadvertently
predicted what will happen in the future of the series. Whilst JKR
did not indicate which scene in the movie was the scene that
pre-empted her, I believe it could be the scene where Snape was
shielding the kids from the werewolf. This may not be as odd as some
people think, since the books (and the movies) have portrayed Snape
protecting Harry a number of times.
Eg. PS/first movie: counter curse against Quirrel's hurling curse on
the broom
POA book: in the Sheirking Shack when he was trying to "save" Harry
(one of his objectives) from Black and Lupin.
This seem to support the following theory - that Severus Snape is a
Gryffindor at heart. This is also in line with the Snape loves Lily/
Snape's redemption thread in the NG and that JKR confirmed along the
line that Snape did/will love somebody.
In the PS book and first movie, Harry was allocated to Gryffindor
House by the Sorting Hat. Then in the COS book and second movie we
understood the edge which his destiny balanced between Slytherin and
Gryffindor. The whole thing came down to choice, Harry's choice. The
fact is that if Harry had not chosen, so vehemently, to be put in
Gryffindor, the Sorting Hat *WAS* going to put Harry in Slytherin.
In think during Snape's time, he also made a choice, and he *CHOSE* to
go to Slytherin. This may not seem so unusual, except that I believe
the Sorting Hat *WAS* going to put him in Gryffindor!.
As we all know, it was Malfoy's botched attempt at friendship, and the
fact that Harry had sat with Ron first in train and got to know him
first, that heavily influenced Harry's choice during the Sorting. If
I'm correct (and according to the movie and I don't have the book with
me to verify this), both Ron, Hermione and Malfoy were sorted before
Harry. So naturally, as Harry was then pre-disposed to Ron and
Hermione, and given that Malfoy had rubbed Harry the wrong way, Harry
was bound to choose Gryffindor over Slytherin.
What would have happened if the lonely and impressionable Harry had
sat with Malfoy in the train first? They both could have bought each
other Chocolate Frogs and Malfoy's opinion regarding Weasleys *MAY*
not have met any objection with Harry (he may not like it, but if your
first friend in a new place says so, you may not argue too much). In
this alternate potterverse, there would be no reason why he wouldn't
not then have accepted Malfoy's friendship and NOT vehemently deny the
destiny that the Sorting Hat would choosen for him - Slytherin.
Now imagine the same thing when Snape was on his way as a first year
to Hogwarts. Perhaps during that trip, the Marauders (Lupin, Black,
Pettigrew and Potter, or maybe most likely just Black and Potter)
played a trick on him, snubbed or insulted him in a way, making Snape
feel bad, humiliated and angry. At that point when it was his turn at
the Sorting Hat, Snape would have naturally *CHOSEN* to go to
Slytherin (given that the rest of the Marauders went to Griffyndor)
even when the Hat *WAS* going to put him in Gryffindor.
When Harry made his choice to go to Gryffindor, "the circle is
complete" (so to say according to the *OTHER* great series of movies).
In Snape's generation, a future Gryffindor was lost to Slytherin and
in Harry's time, a future Slytherin was lost to Gryffindor. The
ledger is now balanced.
What the scene with the werewolf seem to indicate is that Snape still
possess the heart/spirit of a true Gryffindor, and throughout the
books it has shown that he is no coward - to a point his actions were
almost selfless. eg.
Book 1: At Halloween he headed off Quirrel to protect the PS, even
suffering Fluffy's affections for his effort. He didn't have to do
this - what would he have gained out of this? Nothing I would think
other than it is the right thing to do.
Book 3: He went alone to try and capture 2 wizards (Lupin and Black)
Why? What was his motive? 50% revenge? 40% desire to save Harry? 10%
because he wants to win?
End of Book 4: Infiltrate Voldy's group without fear, and according to
DD he has the most dangerous assignment of all members in the OotP -
what did he have to gain out of this?
Book 5: <someone might be able to point out Snape's brave/selfless
actions - I can't remember off the top of my head>
Overall, a true Slytherin wouldn't care about people other than
attaining power. They could be brave, resourceful, brilliant and
"great" but they wouldn't give two shavings of monkswood about anyone
other than to attain power for themselves (eg. Malfoys, Voldy..).
A true Slytherin wouldn't "care" about Harry, a true Slytherin
wouldn't care about repaying a life debt either. So Snape's
"insistence" of repaying James Potter's action of saving his life by
saving Harry's numerous times indicate that deep down beneath all the
hate, a sliver of Gryffindorian spirit still shines.
Whilst this spirit may not shine bright enough (yet?) to counter the
years of humiliation, hate and suffering being the butt of practical
and lethal jokes, it explains why Snape "hates" Harry and yet "cares"
for him at the same time. After all, Harry is the constant reminder
of what he had become - what he was *FORCED TO CHOOSE* to become and
what he could and should have been.
And this is separate to whether Harry looked like James or had Lily's
eyes, or Snape had a crush on Lily, blah..blah..
As for Dumbledore, he knew of Snape's choice, as he knew of Harry's.
Because of that knowledge, Dumbledore trusted Snape, that somewhere
deep down he would do the right thing.
As such, in a possible future storyline, we could see Snape regaining
his goodness and redeem himself. As someone else pointed out, he might
even replace Dumbledore as Harry's new benefector/protector. Would
Snape be the one who stands between Voldy's AK(47) and Harry, just as
he stood between the werewolf and the kids in the movie?
predicted what will happen in the future of the series. Whilst JKR
did not indicate which scene in the movie was the scene that
pre-empted her, I believe it could be the scene where Snape was
shielding the kids from the werewolf. This may not be as odd as some
people think, since the books (and the movies) have portrayed Snape
protecting Harry a number of times.
Eg. PS/first movie: counter curse against Quirrel's hurling curse on
the broom
POA book: in the Sheirking Shack when he was trying to "save" Harry
(one of his objectives) from Black and Lupin.
This seem to support the following theory - that Severus Snape is a
Gryffindor at heart. This is also in line with the Snape loves Lily/
Snape's redemption thread in the NG and that JKR confirmed along the
line that Snape did/will love somebody.
In the PS book and first movie, Harry was allocated to Gryffindor
House by the Sorting Hat. Then in the COS book and second movie we
understood the edge which his destiny balanced between Slytherin and
Gryffindor. The whole thing came down to choice, Harry's choice. The
fact is that if Harry had not chosen, so vehemently, to be put in
Gryffindor, the Sorting Hat *WAS* going to put Harry in Slytherin.
In think during Snape's time, he also made a choice, and he *CHOSE* to
go to Slytherin. This may not seem so unusual, except that I believe
the Sorting Hat *WAS* going to put him in Gryffindor!.
As we all know, it was Malfoy's botched attempt at friendship, and the
fact that Harry had sat with Ron first in train and got to know him
first, that heavily influenced Harry's choice during the Sorting. If
I'm correct (and according to the movie and I don't have the book with
me to verify this), both Ron, Hermione and Malfoy were sorted before
Harry. So naturally, as Harry was then pre-disposed to Ron and
Hermione, and given that Malfoy had rubbed Harry the wrong way, Harry
was bound to choose Gryffindor over Slytherin.
What would have happened if the lonely and impressionable Harry had
sat with Malfoy in the train first? They both could have bought each
other Chocolate Frogs and Malfoy's opinion regarding Weasleys *MAY*
not have met any objection with Harry (he may not like it, but if your
first friend in a new place says so, you may not argue too much). In
this alternate potterverse, there would be no reason why he wouldn't
not then have accepted Malfoy's friendship and NOT vehemently deny the
destiny that the Sorting Hat would choosen for him - Slytherin.
Now imagine the same thing when Snape was on his way as a first year
to Hogwarts. Perhaps during that trip, the Marauders (Lupin, Black,
Pettigrew and Potter, or maybe most likely just Black and Potter)
played a trick on him, snubbed or insulted him in a way, making Snape
feel bad, humiliated and angry. At that point when it was his turn at
the Sorting Hat, Snape would have naturally *CHOSEN* to go to
Slytherin (given that the rest of the Marauders went to Griffyndor)
even when the Hat *WAS* going to put him in Gryffindor.
When Harry made his choice to go to Gryffindor, "the circle is
complete" (so to say according to the *OTHER* great series of movies).
In Snape's generation, a future Gryffindor was lost to Slytherin and
in Harry's time, a future Slytherin was lost to Gryffindor. The
ledger is now balanced.
What the scene with the werewolf seem to indicate is that Snape still
possess the heart/spirit of a true Gryffindor, and throughout the
books it has shown that he is no coward - to a point his actions were
almost selfless. eg.
Book 1: At Halloween he headed off Quirrel to protect the PS, even
suffering Fluffy's affections for his effort. He didn't have to do
this - what would he have gained out of this? Nothing I would think
other than it is the right thing to do.
Book 3: He went alone to try and capture 2 wizards (Lupin and Black)
Why? What was his motive? 50% revenge? 40% desire to save Harry? 10%
because he wants to win?
End of Book 4: Infiltrate Voldy's group without fear, and according to
DD he has the most dangerous assignment of all members in the OotP -
what did he have to gain out of this?
Book 5: <someone might be able to point out Snape's brave/selfless
actions - I can't remember off the top of my head>
Overall, a true Slytherin wouldn't care about people other than
attaining power. They could be brave, resourceful, brilliant and
"great" but they wouldn't give two shavings of monkswood about anyone
other than to attain power for themselves (eg. Malfoys, Voldy..).
A true Slytherin wouldn't "care" about Harry, a true Slytherin
wouldn't care about repaying a life debt either. So Snape's
"insistence" of repaying James Potter's action of saving his life by
saving Harry's numerous times indicate that deep down beneath all the
hate, a sliver of Gryffindorian spirit still shines.
Whilst this spirit may not shine bright enough (yet?) to counter the
years of humiliation, hate and suffering being the butt of practical
and lethal jokes, it explains why Snape "hates" Harry and yet "cares"
for him at the same time. After all, Harry is the constant reminder
of what he had become - what he was *FORCED TO CHOOSE* to become and
what he could and should have been.
And this is separate to whether Harry looked like James or had Lily's
eyes, or Snape had a crush on Lily, blah..blah..
As for Dumbledore, he knew of Snape's choice, as he knew of Harry's.
Because of that knowledge, Dumbledore trusted Snape, that somewhere
deep down he would do the right thing.
As such, in a possible future storyline, we could see Snape regaining
his goodness and redeem himself. As someone else pointed out, he might
even replace Dumbledore as Harry's new benefector/protector. Would
Snape be the one who stands between Voldy's AK(47) and Harry, just as
he stood between the werewolf and the kids in the movie?