Discussion:
Maybe Emma Watson Has It Right
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Chan Welbourne
2011-09-04 17:05:32 UTC
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I was reading this article by David Sanders, a Lewisburg Tennessee
English teacher, regarding Stephen King's et al comments about J. K.
Rowling...

http://snipurl.com/2827ta [groups_google_com]

...and it occurred to me that, as an American, our differences with the
British makes for a cultural gap. They are very much more inclined to
the things of the indoor (reading, writing, watching) and us to the
things of the out and out (sports, movie theaters, dining)

I remembered a recent interview given by Emma Watson which I
paraphrase...

http://snipurl.com/28282g [www_iheartwatson_net]

*What do you miss about the UK when you’re away?*

"My friends and family, obviously. But I also miss the food. You won’t
believe this either, but I miss the weather. I actually miss the grey
because it’s nice to feel like you can snuggle up indoors, watch a
movie and not feel guilty. I’ve got that inherent British thing that
the minute the sun comes out I’ve got to be outside enjoying every
single second of it."

I have come to the conclusion when discussing the alchemical references
that JKR has included in the Harry Potter series with my American
friends, that the cultural gap truly rears its head. They simply do not
"get it".

What they do not get is much more the concept of literary alchemy, of
chemical alchemy, of alchemy in general than its use by JKR. It's not
part of our literary heritage, or historical or for tha matter our
history of science.

The end result of this gap is damning and damaging. Until Americans can
grasp the relevance of literary alchemy, the possibility of a
widespread dissemination of the alchemical message in the Harry Potter
series is seriously constrained. :-[

Emma likes ping-pong, we like tennis. 'Nuff said? :/
Sirius Black
2011-09-04 18:15:54 UTC
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Post by Chan Welbourne
I was reading this article by David Sanders, a Lewisburg Tennessee
English teacher, regarding Stephen King's et al comments about J. K.
Rowling...
http://snipurl.com/2827ta [groups_google_com]
...and it occurred to me that, as an American, our differences with the
British makes for a cultural gap. They are very much more inclined to
the things of the indoor (reading, writing, watching) and us to the
things of the out and out (sports, movie theaters, dining)
I remembered a recent interview given by Emma Watson which I
paraphrase...
http://snipurl.com/28282g [www_iheartwatson_net]
*What do you miss about the UK when you’re away?*
"My friends and family, obviously. But I also miss the food. You won’t
believe this either, but I miss the weather. I actually miss the grey
because it’s nice to feel like you can snuggle up indoors, watch a
movie and not feel guilty. I’ve got that inherent British thing that
the minute the sun comes out I’ve got to be outside enjoying every
single second of it."
I have come to the conclusion when discussing the alchemical references
that JKR has included in the Harry Potter series with my American
friends, that the cultural gap truly rears its head. They simply do not
"get it".
What they do not get is much more the concept of literary alchemy, of
chemical alchemy, of alchemy in general than its use by JKR. It's not
part of our literary heritage, or historical or for tha matter our
history of science.
The end result of this gap is damning and damaging. Until Americans can
grasp the relevance of literary alchemy, the possibility of a
widespread dissemination of the alchemical message in the Harry Potter
series is seriously constrained. :-[
Emma likes ping-pong, we like tennis. 'Nuff said? :/
Jees, CW, you're getting all "sirius" here, aren't ya' ? lol
Chan Welbourne
2011-09-04 18:24:50 UTC
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Post by Sirius Black
Post by Chan Welbourne
I was reading this article by David Sanders, a Lewisburg Tennessee
English teacher, regarding Stephen King's et al comments about J. K.
Rowling...
http://snipurl.com/2827ta [groups_google_com]
...and it occurred to me that, as an American, our differences with the
British makes for a cultural gap. They are very much more inclined to
the things of the indoor (reading, writing, watching) and us to the
things of the out and out (sports, movie theaters, dining)
I remembered a recent interview given by Emma Watson which I
paraphrase...
http://snipurl.com/28282g [www_iheartwatson_net]
*What do you miss about the UK when you’re away?*
"My friends and family, obviously. But I also miss the food. You won’t
believe this either, but I miss the weather. I actually miss the grey
because it’s nice to feel like you can snuggle up indoors, watch a
movie and not feel guilty. I’ve got that inherent British thing that
the minute the sun comes out I’ve got to be outside enjoying every
single second of it."
I have come to the conclusion when discussing the alchemical references
that JKR has included in the Harry Potter series with my American
friends, that the cultural gap truly rears its head. They simply do not
"get it".
What they do not get is much more the concept of literary alchemy, of
chemical alchemy, of alchemy in general than its use by JKR. It's not
part of our literary heritage, or historical or for tha matter our
history of science.
The end result of this gap is damning and damaging. Until Americans can
grasp the relevance of literary alchemy, the possibility of a
widespread dissemination of the alchemical message in the Harry Potter
series is seriously constrained. :-[
Emma likes ping-pong, we like tennis. 'Nuff said? :/
Jees, CW, you're getting all "sirius" here, aren't ya' ? lol
Here I thought when I included a quote from Emma that you'd be pleased.
:-Z
Phil
2011-09-10 18:43:14 UTC
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Post by Sirius Black
Post by Chan Welbourne
I was reading this article by David Sanders, a Lewisburg Tennessee
English teacher, regarding Stephen King's et al comments about J. K.
Rowling...
http://snipurl.com/2827ta [groups_google_com]
...and it occurred to me that, as an American, our differences with
the British makes for a cultural gap. They are very much more
inclined to the things of the indoor (reading, writing, watching) and
us to the things of the out and out (sports, movie theaters, dining)
I remembered a recent interview given by Emma Watson which I
paraphrase...
http://snipurl.com/28282g [www_iheartwatson_net]
*What do you miss about the UK when you’re away?*
"My friends and family, obviously. But I also miss the food. You
won’t believe this either, but I miss the weather. I actually miss
the grey because it’s nice to feel like you can snuggle up indoors,
watch a movie and not feel guilty. I’ve got that inherent British
thing that the minute the sun comes out I’ve got to be outside
enjoying every single second of it."
I have come to the conclusion when discussing the alchemical
references that JKR has included in the Harry Potter series with my
American friends, that the cultural gap truly rears its head. They
simply do not "get it".
What they do not get is much more the concept of literary alchemy, of
chemical alchemy, of alchemy in general than its use by JKR. It's not
part of our literary heritage, or historical or for tha matter our
history of science.
The end result of this gap is damning and damaging. Until Americans
can grasp the relevance of literary alchemy, the possibility of a
widespread dissemination of the alchemical message in the Harry
Potter series is seriously constrained. :-[
Emma likes ping-pong, we like tennis. 'Nuff said? :/
Jees, CW, you're getting all "sirius" here, aren't ya' ? lol
Here I thought when I included a quote from Emma that you'd be pleased. :-Z
You say To-MAY-toe and we say To-MAH-toe ?

VD
2011-09-04 20:55:54 UTC
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Post by Chan Welbourne
I was reading this article by David Sanders, a Lewisburg Tennessee
English teacher, regarding Stephen King's et al comments about J. K.
Rowling...
http://snipurl.com/2827ta [groups_google_com]
...and it occurred to me that, as an American, our differences with the
British makes for a cultural gap. They are very much more inclined to
the things of the indoor (reading, writing, watching) and us to the
things of the out and out (sports, movie theaters, dining)
During my studies on the British Isles, one of the most difficult
transitions for me was to accept this cultural difference and to
assimilate myself into it. Without doing so, the approach by my
professors was, to say the least, esoteric.
Post by Chan Welbourne
I remembered a recent interview given by Emma Watson which I
paraphrase...
http://snipurl.com/28282g [www_iheartwatson_net]
*What do you miss about the UK when you’re away?*
"My friends and family, obviously. But I also miss the food. You won’t
believe this either, but I miss the weather. I actually miss the grey
because it’s nice to feel like you can snuggle up indoors, watch a
movie and not feel guilty. I’ve got that inherent British thing that
the minute the sun comes out I’ve got to be outside enjoying every
single second of it."
I have come to the conclusion when discussing the alchemical references
that JKR has included in the Harry Potter series with my American
friends, that the cultural gap truly rears its head. They simply do not
"get it".
I understand this fully. From time to time, I forget that I have
acquired a very British, classical Shakespearean/Dickensian
approach/education to English literature.
Post by Chan Welbourne
What they do not get is much more the concept of literary alchemy, of
chemical alchemy, of alchemy in general than its use by JKR. It's not
part of our literary heritage, or historical or for that matter our
history of science.
I also received my biological science collegiate education from an Ivy
League school which the curriculum and syllabus was written by an
Englis Ph.D Inorganic Chemistry. It included one full week on chemical
alchemy and was the most interesting part of the course.

Except for the extremely cute blonde who was my lab partner in
Biochem. woof ;)
Post by Chan Welbourne
The end result of this gap is damning and damaging. Until Americans can
grasp the relevance of literary alchemy, the possibility of a
widespread dissemination of the alchemical message in the Harry Potter
series is seriously constrained. :-[
Yes and I do not expect that this will happen in the short term.

I also firmly believe that we are in a rapidly changing world in terms
of experiences. I expect that we will enter a period where there will
be a non-linear unlimited view in the future, one as Buckminister
Fuller calls it "critical proximity events occurring in pure
principle", social equity, love, harmony, future's "pure potentiality"
(Deepak Chopra).

I'm aware of the fear-based 2012 predictions but I believe the future
is malleable.

This is why I firmly believe that technologically we are learning as
much about what we can do as what we have ignored.

Physics tells us we cannot walk through walls however when we add the
spiritual component, we see physics melt away. We are in a
metaphysical bondage, which ensnares us in a physical bondage (war,
starvation, illness, etc.); wasting monies reinventing technologies
that already exist but "must be kept secret".

I believe this will change and with this change will be how we look at
things of great importance, one of those will be the American surgence
in literary alchemy, chemical alchemy and alchemy as you say "in
general".

Ms. Rowling will be seen in a very different light I suggest when this
happens.
--
http://harrypotterforseekers.com/alchemy/alchemy.php
<http://www.rosecroixjournal.org/resources/documents/chymical_wedding.pdf>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/harrypotterforseekers/messages?o=1
John M.
2011-09-04 22:15:09 UTC
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Post by VD
This is why I firmly believe that technologically we are learning as
much about what we can do as what we have ignored.
Physics tells us we cannot walk through walls however when we add the
spiritual component, we see physics melt away.
In Divinity School, a small group was separated for reasons unknown to
study the historical Jesus Christ. We thought this was odd as that was
the basis of the theology of divinity as we knew it. Comes to pass,
the study was about the historical aspects of the supernatural Christ.
The Christ post Resurrection. The Chris who walked through walls,
teleported, was semi-transparent.../that/ Christ.

During this term we were introduced to such ideas (truths?) as Fermi's
2D pictures of Christ's Crucifixion, personal accounts of those who
had time traveled to Golgotha and a myriad of otherwordly adventures.
If they were lying, I'm dying. Then all of the sudden, the lecture
series ended, we were assigned grades and the lecturing staff was
disbursed. To this day I have no idea what that was all about other
than to expose us, get our opinions; the impression was obvious. There
is so much we do not know and so much yet to come.
--

every man
2011-09-04 22:32:07 UTC
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On Sep 5, 6:15 am, "John M." <***@akapost.comDIRECTEDEMAIL>
wrote:
(On alt.religion.wicca.)
Post by John M.
Post by VD
This is why I firmly believe that technologically we are learning as
much about what we can do as what we have ignored.
Physics tells us we cannot walk through walls however when we add the
spiritual component, we see physics melt away.
In Divinity School, a small group was separated for reasons unknown to
study the historical Jesus Christ. We thought this was odd as that was
the basis of the theology of divinity as we knew it. Comes to pass,
the study was about the historical aspects of the supernatural Christ.
The Christ post Resurrection. The Chris who walked through walls,
teleported, was semi-transparent.../that/ Christ.
During this term we were introduced to such ideas (truths?) as Fermi's
2D pictures of Christ's Crucifixion, personal accounts of those who
had time traveled to Golgotha and a myriad of otherwordly adventures.
If they were lying, I'm dying. Then all of the sudden, the lecture
series ended, we were assigned grades and the lecturing staff was
disbursed. To this day I have no idea what that was all about other
than to expose us, get our opinions; the impression was obvious. There
is so much we do not know and so much yet to come.  
[I don't believe a word of the above.]

<delete url disguised as a youtube link>

The supposed "historical Jesus" you are referring to never existed.
He's
as much a myth as Christianity. The real Jesus had a direct hand in
the production
of neither.

Harry Potter's magick is much like Wiccan magick: useless in the real
world.

Stephen King is a truly great writer, but he doesn't scare me any
more, because
I no longer believe in Evil.

NOTE: These groups are infested with Internet vermin and useless
bookmages with mouths even bigger than their egos. If you
aren't on my list, I won't see your posts. (I only post through
googlegroups, I read from a real newsserver.) Send me a blank
email and I'll send you my real email address eman30890(at)gmail
(dot)com...Put only the alias you use on alt.religion.wicca,
or alt.magick on the subject line. If you don't post on those
groups, put only "Magick" on the Subject line. I will not
be reading your first email. If you make it past this little
filter, I'll put you on my list.

Evergreen
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
2011-09-05 04:14:43 UTC
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Post by every man
(On alt.religion.wicca.)
Post by John M.
Post by VD
This is why I firmly believe that technologically we are learning as
much about what we can do as what we have ignored.
Physics tells us we cannot walk through walls however when we add the
spiritual component, we see physics melt away.
In Divinity School, a small group was separated for reasons unknown to
study the historical Jesus Christ. We thought this was odd as that was
the basis of the theology of divinity as we knew it. Comes to pass,
the study was about the historical aspects of the supernatural Christ.
The Christ post Resurrection. The Chris who walked through walls,
teleported, was semi-transparent.../that/ Christ.
During this term we were introduced to such ideas (truths?) as Fermi's
2D pictures of Christ's Crucifixion, personal accounts of those who
had time traveled to Golgotha and a myriad of otherwordly adventures.
If they were lying, I'm dying. Then all of the sudden, the lecture
series ended, we were assigned grades and the lecturing staff was
disbursed. To this day I have no idea what that was all about other
than to expose us, get our opinions; the impression was obvious. There
is so much we do not know and so much yet to come.
[I don't believe a word of the above.]
<delete url disguised as a youtube link>
The supposed "historical Jesus" you are referring to never existed.
YES he DID!
Look real Close, they talk about a MAN they called GOD, who they Paraded
through the Streets on a Cross!
That was CAESAR, after they Murdered him on the steps of the Senate!
The < >< they parroted their Teachings after was King Yue!!
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
2011-09-05 04:11:32 UTC
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Post by John M.
Post by VD
This is why I firmly believe that technologically we are learning as
much about what we can do as what we have ignored.
Physics tells us we cannot walk through walls however when we add the
spiritual component, we see physics melt away.
In Divinity School,
You like any other Orthodox Teachings are taught to Parrot the Teachings,
not "Think For Yourself"!
John M.
2011-09-07 22:39:49 UTC
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On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 20:11:32 -0800, Lady Azure, Baroness of the North
Post by Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
Post by John M.
Post by VD
This is why I firmly believe that technologically we are learning as
much about what we can do as what we have ignored.
Physics tells us we cannot walk through walls however when we add the
spiritual component, we see physics melt away.
In Divinity School,
You like any other Orthodox Teachings are taught to Parrot the Teachings,
not "Think For Yourself"!
Finally, I got the killfile to work!
--
http://youtu.be/xQVbBjgBS6A
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
2011-09-08 04:55:45 UTC
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Post by John M.
On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 20:11:32 -0800, Lady Azure, Baroness of the North
Post by Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
Post by John M.
Post by VD
This is why I firmly believe that technologically we are learning as
much about what we can do as what we have ignored.
Physics tells us we cannot walk through walls however when we add the
spiritual component, we see physics melt away.
In Divinity School,
You like any other Orthodox Teachings are taught to Parrot the Teachings,
not "Think For Yourself"!
Finally, I got the killfile to work!
GOOD, then I won't have to hear from you again!
But in Reality, you are just another Prick, voting Me in to your Virus of the
Day Club!
Taking ME "OFF LINE", isn't your "RIGHT, OF FREE SPEECH", it is a CRIMINAL
ASSAULT against ME!
Chan Welbourne
2011-09-08 21:43:04 UTC
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Post by John M.
Post by VD
This is why I firmly believe that technologically we are learning as
much about what we can do as what we have ignored.
Physics tells us we cannot walk through walls however when we add the
spiritual component, we see physics melt away.
In Divinity School, a small group was separated for reasons unknown to
study the historical Jesus Christ. We thought this was odd as that was
the basis of the theology of divinity as we knew it. Comes to pass,
the study was about the historical aspects of the supernatural Christ.
The Christ post Resurrection. The Chris who walked through walls,
teleported, was semi-transparent.../that/ Christ.
During this term we were introduced to such ideas (truths?) as Fermi's
2D pictures of Christ's Crucifixion, personal accounts of those who
had time traveled to Golgotha and a myriad of otherwordly adventures.
If they were lying, I'm dying. Then all of the sudden, the lecture
series ended, we were assigned grades and the lecturing staff was
disbursed. To this day I have no idea what that was all about other
than to expose us, get our opinions; the impression was obvious. There
is so much we do not know and so much yet to come.
John, are you a 2012 fatalist? :/
Lady Azure, Baroness of the North Pole
2011-09-09 05:39:59 UTC
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Post by Chan Welbourne
Post by John M.
Post by VD
This is why I firmly believe that technologically we are learning as
much about what we can do as what we have ignored.
Physics tells us we cannot walk through walls however when we add the
spiritual component, we see physics melt away.
In Divinity School, a small group was separated for reasons unknown to
study the historical Jesus Christ. We thought this was odd as that was
the basis of the theology of divinity as we knew it. Comes to pass,
the study was about the historical aspects of the supernatural Christ.
The Christ post Resurrection. The Chris who walked through walls,
teleported, was semi-transparent.../that/ Christ.
During this term we were introduced to such ideas (truths?) as Fermi's
2D pictures of Christ's Crucifixion, personal accounts of those who
had time traveled to Golgotha and a myriad of otherwordly adventures.
If they were lying, I'm dying. Then all of the sudden, the lecture
series ended, we were assigned grades and the lecturing staff was
disbursed. To this day I have no idea what that was all about other
than to expose us, get our opinions; the impression was obvious. There
is so much we do not know and so much yet to come.
John, are you a 2012 fatalist? :/
Love that Joke!
Sin's leave the Earth, and they only have themselves to attack, so they must
prevent it from happening!
Worse is the 2035?, thing about the Rock which threatens the Earth so Man
shoves it over to put a Bullet in the Sun, which is why the House of Jacob,
must "STOP TIME"!
Toon
2011-09-05 16:36:03 UTC
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On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 13:05:32 -0400, "Chan Welbourne"
Post by Chan Welbourne
The end result of this gap is damning and damaging. Until Americans can
grasp the relevance of literary alchemy, the possibility of a
widespread dissemination of the alchemical message in the Harry Potter
series is seriously constrained. :-[
That's a bad thing? We must disseminate it? By not doing so, we'll
ensure the world ends in 2012?
Chan Welbourne
2011-09-06 20:20:09 UTC
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Post by Toon
On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 13:05:32 -0400, "Chan Welbourne"
Post by Chan Welbourne
The end result of this gap is damning and damaging. Until Americans can
grasp the relevance of literary alchemy, the possibility of a
widespread dissemination of the alchemical message in the Harry Potter
series is seriously constrained. :-[
That's a bad thing?
Yes.
Post by Toon
We must disseminate it?
I suggest that /you/ shouldn't do anything, /you/ <plural> have had
nearly a dozen years to do so without any proper effort.
Post by Toon
By not doing so, we'll ensure the world ends in 2012?
Back to trolling I see. :-[
VD
2011-09-07 00:18:19 UTC
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Post by Toon
On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 13:05:32 -0400, "Chan Welbourne"
Post by Chan Welbourne
The end result of this gap is damning and damaging. Until Americans can
grasp the relevance of literary alchemy, the possibility of a
widespread dissemination of the alchemical message in the Harry Potter
series is seriously constrained. :-[
That's a bad thing? We must disseminate it? By not doing so, we'll
ensure the world ends in 2012?
An FYI Toon, you are invited to join in any conversation however if
you persist in creating distractions instead of commentary, expect
that you will need to rely on your former friends to enjoy
companionship.

Considering the state of affairs with them on alt.fan.harry-potter you
can translate that to mean being alone.
--
http://harrypotterforseekers.com/alchemy/alchemy.php
<http://www.rosecroixjournal.org/resources/documents/chymical_wedding.pdf>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/harrypotterforseekers/messages?o=1
Sirius Black
2011-09-07 00:19:35 UTC
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Post by VD
Post by Toon
On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 13:05:32 -0400, "Chan Welbourne"
Post by Chan Welbourne
The end result of this gap is damning and damaging. Until Americans can
grasp the relevance of literary alchemy, the possibility of a
widespread dissemination of the alchemical message in the Harry Potter
series is seriously constrained. :-[
That's a bad thing? We must disseminate it? By not doing so, we'll
ensure the world ends in 2012?
An FYI Toon, you are invited to join in any conversation however if
you persist in creating distractions instead of commentary, expect
that you will need to rely on your former friends to enjoy
companionship.
Considering the state of affairs with them on alt.fan.harry-potter you
can translate that to mean being alone.
heh

I killfiled the nutcase troll long ago.
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