The librarian, and Snape's mother

[blue]

Does anyone recall as I haven't reread Book 6, what happened to Snape's
mother, Eileen Prince? Snape is halfblood, who was the Muggle, his mother or
father (I can't remember- it was his father, right?)(I don't have access to
my Book 6 right now)

I'm sure this has been speculated on before...is Eileen Prince alive? If it
was said in the books that she died is it really possible she's alive? And
if it was not said that she'd died, I'm going to the same place with this
question- Irma Pince, the Hogwart's librarian: anagram for Im A Prince. Acts
similar to Snape in some respects. Could it be she is his mother or a
relation?

I noticed in one of my rereadings of one of the books, forget which one, 4
maybe, Snape sees Harry outside with a Quidditch book and takes points from
Gryffindor because students are not allowed to have books outside the
castle. (This doesn't make sense since they carry their bags and whatever
books they hold off to herbology and Care of Magical Creatures. but oh well)
Irma Pince is notorious for guarding the library books and demanding high
care be taken of them. Any relation here?

[Richard Eney]

Post by blue
Does anyone recall as I haven't reread Book 6, what happened to Snape's
mother, Eileen Prince? Snape is halfblood, who was the Muggle, his mother or
father (I can't remember- it was his father, right?)(I don't have access to
my Book 6 right now)
I'm sure this has been speculated on before...

<snip>

Post by blue
Irma Pince, the Hogwart's librarian: anagram for Im A Prince. Acts
similar to Snape in some respects. Could it be she is his mother or a
relation?

Yes, it has. We discussed it here a while back. There is insufficient
evidence in the books, though there are similarities.

Post by blue
I noticed in one of my rereadings of one of the books, forget which one,
4 maybe, Snape sees Harry outside with a Quidditch book and takes points
from Gryffindor because students are not allowed to have books outside the
castle. (This doesn't make sense since they carry their bags and whatever
books they hold off to herbology and Care of Magical Creatures. but oh well)

_Library_ books.

Post by blue
Irma Pince is notorious for guarding the library books and demanding high
care be taken of them. Any relation here?

Just a tendency to be nastier than necessary. However, it is entirely
_possible_ that Irma Pince is Eileen Prince, being protected even as
Trelawney is being protected. After all, if Snape's mother is alive and
he cares at all, she would need to be protected from DEs too. It makes
sense, but - so far - it doesn't seem to advance the plot any to have
that option.

=Tamar

[blue]

Post by Richard Eney

Post by blue
Does anyone recall as I haven't reread Book 6, what happened to Snape's
mother, Eileen Prince? Snape is halfblood, who was the Muggle, his mother or
father (I can't remember- it was his father, right?)(I don't have access to
my Book 6 right now)
I'm sure this has been speculated on before...

<snip>

Post by blue
Irma Pince, the Hogwart's librarian: anagram for Im A Prince. Acts
similar to Snape in some respects. Could it be she is his mother or a
relation?

Yes, it has. We discussed it here a while back. There is insufficient
evidence in the books, though there are similarities.

Post by blue
I noticed in one of my rereadings of one of the books, forget which one,
4 maybe, Snape sees Harry outside with a Quidditch book and takes points
from Gryffindor because students are not allowed to have books outside the
castle. (This doesn't make sense since they carry their bags and whatever
books they hold off to herbology and Care of Magical Creatures. but oh well)

_Library_ books.

Post by blue
Irma Pince is notorious for guarding the library books and demanding high
care be taken of them. Any relation here?

Just a tendency to be nastier than necessary. However, it is entirely
_possible_ that Irma Pince is Eileen Prince, being protected even as
Trelawney is being protected. After all, if Snape's mother is alive and
he cares at all, she would need to be protected from DEs too. It makes
sense, but - so far - it doesn't seem to advance the plot any to have
that option.
=Tamar

Also Irma Pince is sometimes described in appearance using words that have
been used for Snape- vulture-like is one of them that stuck in my mind.
Harry's Quidditch book was a library book, but what I was saying is that it
only makes sense that if a student checks out a book from the library that
it would occasionally be in their school bag as they are outside studying by
the lake or tossed in with their textbooks in their bag as they go off to
herbology etc. It doesn't seem it would be uncommon enough to deduct points
from Harry for(yeah, another way to read that is Snape just looks for any
opportunity to "get" Harry.

I think it's very likely that Snape's mother could be hidden at Hogwarts for
safety reasons- after all, the librarian position is not high profile and
probably easily in a position not to interact much with others except for
students, or attract attention. I think if she is this could be the key to
DD being so sure Snape is trustworthy, as Snape made an unbreakable vow of
loyalty in exchange for DD's protection of her. Why, I don't know. I thought
Snape has been loved before but not the other way around. (ie, we'd assume
the person who has loved him before is his mother, but I thought JKR said
Snape has not loved- maybe I'm confusing that with Tom Riddle or maybe she
said Snape has not been IN love...)etc

[chimaera]

Post by blue

Post by Richard Eney

Post by blue
Does anyone recall as I haven't reread Book 6, what happened to Snape's
mother, Eileen Prince? Snape is halfblood, who was the Muggle, his mother or
father (I can't remember- it was his father, right?)(I don't have access to
my Book 6 right now)
I'm sure this has been speculated on before...

<snip>

Post by blue
Irma Pince, the Hogwart's librarian: anagram for Im A Prince. Acts
similar to Snape in some respects. Could it be she is his mother or a
relation?

Yes, it has. We discussed it here a while back. There is insufficient
evidence in the books, though there are similarities.

Post by blue
I noticed in one of my rereadings of one of the books, forget which one,
4 maybe, Snape sees Harry outside with a Quidditch book and takes points
from Gryffindor because students are not allowed to have books outside the
castle. (This doesn't make sense since they carry their bags and whatever
books they hold off to herbology and Care of Magical Creatures. but oh well)

_Library_ books.

Post by blue
Irma Pince is notorious for guarding the library books and demanding high
care be taken of them. Any relation here?

Just a tendency to be nastier than necessary. However, it is entirely
_possible_ that Irma Pince is Eileen Prince, being protected even as
Trelawney is being protected. After all, if Snape's mother is alive and
he cares at all, she would need to be protected from DEs too. It makes
sense, but - so far - it doesn't seem to advance the plot any to have
that option.
=Tamar

Also Irma Pince is sometimes described in appearance using words that have
been used for Snape- vulture-like is one of them that stuck in my mind.
Harry's Quidditch book was a library book, but what I was saying is that it
only makes sense that if a student checks out a book from the library that
it would occasionally be in their school bag as they are outside studying by
the lake or tossed in with their textbooks in their bag as they go off to
herbology etc. It doesn't seem it would be uncommon enough to deduct points
from Harry for(yeah, another way to read that is Snape just looks for any
opportunity to "get" Harry.
I think it's very likely that Snape's mother could be hidden at Hogwarts for
safety reasons- after all, the librarian position is not high profile and
probably easily in a position not to interact much with others except for
students, or attract attention. I think if she is this could be the key to
DD being so sure Snape is trustworthy, as Snape made an unbreakable vow of
loyalty in exchange for DD's protection of her. Why, I don't know. I thought
Snape has been loved before but not the other way around. (ie, we'd assume
the person who has loved him before is his mother, but I thought JKR said
Snape has not loved- maybe I'm confusing that with Tom Riddle or maybe she
said Snape has not been IN love...)etc- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

I'm pretty sure that what JKR said in a recent interview was that
Snape had been loved in his life and that in a way that made him even
more culpable than Voldemort (Tom Riddle), whom no one had ever
loved. Most people seem to believe that it was Snape's mother who
loved him. I have speculated that it was his father and that the man
in the Pensieve memory was a maternal relative. Regardless, I don't
think that in that interview Rowling addressed the question of whether
Snape had ever loved anyone.

In a much earlier interview, someone asked her if Snape had been in
love with Lily, and her answer was along the lines of "Ewww, who would
want Snape to be in love with them. How horrible." (How schoolgirl,
I thought.) But note she didn't actually answer the question.
Unfortunately, I think it's going to turn out that Snape had a thing
for Lily.

[gjw]

Post by chimaera

Post by blue

Post by Richard Eney

Post by blue
Does anyone recall as I haven't reread Book 6, what happened to Snape's
mother, Eileen Prince? Snape is halfblood, who was the Muggle, his mother or
father (I can't remember- it was his father, right?)(I don't have access to
my Book 6 right now)
I'm sure this has been speculated on before...

<snip>

Post by blue
Irma Pince, the Hogwart's librarian: anagram for Im A Prince. Acts
similar to Snape in some respects. Could it be she is his mother or a
relation?

Yes, it has. We discussed it here a while back. There is insufficient
evidence in the books, though there are similarities.

Post by blue
I noticed in one of my rereadings of one of the books, forget which one,
4 maybe, Snape sees Harry outside with a Quidditch book and takes points
from Gryffindor because students are not allowed to have books outside the
castle. (This doesn't make sense since they carry their bags and whatever
books they hold off to herbology and Care of Magical Creatures. but oh well)

_Library_ books.

Post by blue
Irma Pince is notorious for guarding the library books and demanding high
care be taken of them. Any relation here?

Just a tendency to be nastier than necessary. However, it is entirely
_possible_ that Irma Pince is Eileen Prince, being protected even as
Trelawney is being protected. After all, if Snape's mother is alive and
he cares at all, she would need to be protected from DEs too. It makes
sense, but - so far - it doesn't seem to advance the plot any to have
that option.
=Tamar

Also Irma Pince is sometimes described in appearance using words that have
been used for Snape- vulture-like is one of them that stuck in my mind.
Harry's Quidditch book was a library book, but what I was saying is that it
only makes sense that if a student checks out a book from the library that
it would occasionally be in their school bag as they are outside studying by
the lake or tossed in with their textbooks in their bag as they go off to
herbology etc. It doesn't seem it would be uncommon enough to deduct points
from Harry for(yeah, another way to read that is Snape just looks for any
opportunity to "get" Harry.
I think it's very likely that Snape's mother could be hidden at Hogwarts for
safety reasons- after all, the librarian position is not high profile and
probably easily in a position not to interact much with others except for
students, or attract attention. I think if she is this could be the key to
DD being so sure Snape is trustworthy, as Snape made an unbreakable vow of
loyalty in exchange for DD's protection of her. Why, I don't know. I thought
Snape has been loved before but not the other way around. (ie, we'd assume
the person who has loved him before is his mother, but I thought JKR said
Snape has not loved- maybe I'm confusing that with Tom Riddle or maybe she
said Snape has not been IN love...)etc- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

I'm pretty sure that what JKR said in a recent interview was that
Snape had been loved in his life and that in a way that made him even
more culpable than Voldemort (Tom Riddle), whom no one had ever
loved.

That she did. And the use of the word "culpable" might be damning in
this case... (unless, of course, she's just referring to his usual
nastiness with Harry and the other students).

Post by chimaera
Most people seem to believe that it was Snape's mother who
loved him. I have speculated that it was his father and that the man
in the Pensieve memory was a maternal relative. Regardless, I don't
think that in that interview Rowling addressed the question of whether
Snape had ever loved anyone.
In a much earlier interview, someone asked her if Snape had been in
love with Lily, and her answer was along the lines of "Ewww, who would
want Snape to be in love with them. How horrible." (How schoolgirl,
I thought.) But note she didn't actually answer the question.

Actually, in the interview you're thinking of, the question wasn't
about Lily. The person simply asked if Snape was ever going to fall
in love. That's when JKR said "Who on earth would want Snape in love
with them, that is a very horrible idea."

And no, that didn't really answer the question.

The one time an interviewer asked Rowling directly if Snape had been
in love with Lily, she looked somewhat stunned, and hesitated while
she tried to think of an answer (asking the interviewer "You
speculate...?"). The interviewer then asked her whether or not she
could tell us, and she said "No, I can't tell you." (And I believe
she looked a little peeved afterwards...)

[blue]

Post by chimaera
In a much earlier interview, someone asked her if Snape had been in
love with Lily, and her answer was along the lines of "Ewww, who would
want Snape to be in love with them. How horrible." (How schoolgirl,
I thought.) But note she didn't actually answer the question.

I think Alan Rickman/Snape in the Movies has a lot to do with this. If they
had a truly repulsive Snape, people would not even go there. Ha ha! Snape as
portrayed by Alan Rickman, is cleaned up and softer, and much less greasy
with a tolerable nose. :-) Not saying *I* have a thing for Snape but legions
of fanfic people do, and I also think this is why sooo many people are Snape
fans, when he's pretty nasty in the books. Alan Rickman + Bad Boy Complex =
Severus Snape, Dark Hero.

Snape in the books is so sallow, greasy, hook-nosed... of course this is
from Harry's perspective but still.Ick. Alan Rickman makes him better
looking for sure. I also think he does play him softer, a great deal. I
think it's a director issue. Someone once said Snape was "like Trent
Reznor". LOL!

[Richard Eney]

Post by blue

Post by chimaera
In a much earlier interview, someone asked her if Snape had been in
love with Lily, and her answer was along the lines of "Ewww, who would
want Snape to be in love with them. How horrible." (How schoolgirl,
I thought.) But note she didn't actually answer the question.

I think Alan Rickman/Snape in the Movies has a lot to do with this. If they
had a truly repulsive Snape, people would not even go there. Ha ha! Snape as
portrayed by Alan Rickman, is cleaned up and softer, and much less greasy
with a tolerable nose. :-)

There were Snape fans before the movies; using Google might bring
up some evidence from early dates.

Post by blue
Alan Rickman + Bad Boy Complex = Severus Snape, Dark Hero.

Byronic hero. Lord Byron gave it the name but may not have been
the first either.

Post by blue
Snape in the books is so sallow, greasy, hook-nosed... of course this is
from Harry's perspective but still.Ick.

Other students mention the greasy hair. I still say it's a protective
potion. Also, not all cultures think hair needs to be stripped of its
natural oils.

Post by blue
Alan Rickman makes him better looking for sure. I also think he does
play him softer, a great deal. I think it's a director issue.

Both scriptwriter and director are involved. The "extra" scenes in
PS/SS show us Snape actively challenging Harry in that first Potions
class - straight out of the book, and it shows us Snape losing control,
realizing he has lost it, and trying to distract the other students by
asking "Why aren't you all taking notes?"

=Tamar

[Deevo]

Post by blue
Does anyone recall as I haven't reread Book 6, what happened to Snape's
mother, Eileen Prince? Snape is halfblood, who was the Muggle, his mother
or father (I can't remember- it was his father, right?)(I don't have
access to my Book 6 right now)
I'm sure this has been speculated on before...is Eileen Prince alive? If
it was said in the books that she died is it really possible she's alive?
And if it was not said that she'd died, I'm going to the same place with
this question- Irma Pince, the Hogwart's librarian: anagram for Im A
Prince. Acts similar to Snape in some respects. Could it be she is his
mother or a relation?

It's been speculated on before and may well be a possibility. We'll have to
wait till July to know for sure.

Post by blue
I noticed in one of my rereadings of one of the books, forget which one, 4
maybe, Snape sees Harry outside with a Quidditch book and takes points
from Gryffindor because students are not allowed to have books outside the
castle. (This doesn't make sense since they carry their bags and whatever
books they hold off to herbology and Care of Magical Creatures. but oh
well) Irma Pince is notorious for guarding the library books and demanding
high care be taken of them. Any relation here?

I doubt it, I think her dramatic reaction to the Prince's potions book in
Harry's posession was more of a potential clue as was the fact that she was
veiled during Dumbledore's funeral, possibly to avoid recognition when
outside the school.

[blue]

Post by Deevo
I doubt it, I think her dramatic reaction to the Prince's potions book in
Harry's posession was more of a potential clue as was the fact that she
was veiled during Dumbledore's funeral, possibly to avoid recognition when
outside the school.
--
Deevo

Well, I have always sort of thought that the Potions "Prince" was Snape BUT
in reality the one who made all those notes (maybe he magically copied it,
or after the deaths acquired her book) is Lily as it was HER book. She's not
the "prince" but that's HER book, or copied from HER notes.

[gjw]

Post by blue

Post by Deevo
I doubt it, I think her dramatic reaction to the Prince's potions book in
Harry's posession was more of a potential clue as was the fact that she
was veiled during Dumbledore's funeral, possibly to avoid recognition when
outside the school.
--
Deevo

Well, I have always sort of thought that the Potions "Prince" was Snape BUT
in reality the one who made all those notes (maybe he magically copied it,
or after the deaths acquired her book) is Lily as it was HER book. She's not
the "prince" but that's HER book, or copied from HER notes.

My hunch is that Lily and Snape, sharing a talent and interest in
Potions, studied together. Perhaps one even tutored the other. But
if so, we don't yet know enough about it to say who would have tutored
whom. There are three possibilities regarding the potions book: 1.
They were Snape's notes, which Lily used to impress Slughorn (just as
her son did later); 2. They were Lily's notes, which Snape used to
impress Slughorn; or 3. both Snape & Lily contributed to the notes,
sharing their secrets during their study sessions (which would explain
why both students impressed Slughorn equally...)

[Toon]

Post by blue
Snape sees Harry outside with a Quidditch book and takes points from
Gryffindor because students are not allowed to have books outside the
castle. (This doesn't make sense since they carry their bags and whatever
books they hold off to herbology and Care of Magical Creatures. but oh well)
Irma Pince is notorious for guarding the library books and demanding high
care be taken of them. Any relation here?

Sicne the herbology books are in transit to the Herbology green
houses, it counts as school grounds to and from, and during class.

Or maybe just Library books have to stay inside where it's clean.

[Deevo]

Post by Toon

Post by blue
Snape sees Harry outside with a Quidditch book and takes points from
Gryffindor because students are not allowed to have books outside the
castle. (This doesn't make sense since they carry their bags and whatever
books they hold off to herbology and Care of Magical Creatures. but oh well)
Irma Pince is notorious for guarding the library books and demanding high
care be taken of them. Any relation here?

Sicne the herbology books are in transit to the Herbology green
houses, it counts as school grounds to and from, and during class.
Or maybe just Library books have to stay inside where it's clean.

Or maybe Snape was just being his usual mean spirited self.

[gjw]

Post by blue
I'm sure this has been speculated on before...is Eileen Prince alive? If it
was said in the books that she died is it really possible she's alive? And
if it was not said that she'd died, I'm going to the same place with this
question- Irma Pince, the Hogwart's librarian: anagram for Im A Prince. Acts
similar to Snape in some respects. Could it be she is his mother or a
relation?

The two names, which seem similar (Pince and Prince) come from
Rowling's love of wordplay (when it comes to naming her characters).

A librarian is naturally associated with reading, and reading is
associated with reading glasses... My hunch is that she got the name
"Pince" from "pince nez", a type of old-fashioned glasses which pinch
the nose (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pince-nez )

On the other hand, she obviously chose "Prince" so she could make
Snape an honest "half-blood Prince"...

[DaveD]

Post by gjw

Post by blue
I'm sure this has been speculated on before...is Eileen Prince alive? If it
was said in the books that she died is it really possible she's alive? And
if it was not said that she'd died, I'm going to the same place with this
question- Irma Pince, the Hogwart's librarian: anagram for Im A Prince. Acts
similar to Snape in some respects. Could it be she is his mother or a
relation?

The two names, which seem similar (Pince and Prince) come from
Rowling's love of wordplay (when it comes to naming her characters).
A librarian is naturally associated with reading, and reading is
associated with reading glasses... My hunch is that she got the name
"Pince" from "pince nez", a type of old-fashioned glasses which pinch
the nose (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pince-nez )
On the other hand, she obviously chose "Prince" so she could make
Snape an honest "half-blood Prince"...

And especially the anagram: Irma Pince = I Am Prince

Odd to have that if it doesn't have some significance, considering HBP - or
another red herring?

DaveD

[Green-Eyed Chris]

Post by DaveD

Post by gjw

Post by blue
I'm sure this has been speculated on before...is Eileen Prince alive? If

it

Post by gjw

Post by blue
was said in the books that she died is it really possible she's alive?

And

Post by gjw

Post by blue
if it was not said that she'd died, I'm going to the same place with this
question- Irma Pince, the Hogwart's librarian: anagram for Im A Prince.

Acts

Post by gjw

Post by blue
similar to Snape in some respects. Could it be she is his mother or a
relation?

The two names, which seem similar (Pince and Prince) come from
Rowling's love of wordplay (when it comes to naming her characters).
A librarian is naturally associated with reading, and reading is
associated with reading glasses... My hunch is that she got the name
"Pince" from "pince nez", a type of old-fashioned glasses which pinch
the nose (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pince-nez )
On the other hand, she obviously chose "Prince" so she could make
Snape an honest "half-blood Prince"...

And especially the anagram: Irma Pince = I Am Prince
Odd to have that if it doesn't have some significance, considering HBP - or
another red herring?

I would very much like to think that the anagram is a clue, but have my doubts.

A look at <http://www.eulenfeder.de/int/gbint.html> shows that great care
was taken to translate the Tom Marvolo Riddle = I am Lord Voldemort
anagram into foreign languages. No such effort has been made with Irma
Pince.
--
Chris

[gjw]

Post by Green-Eyed Chris
A look at <http://www.eulenfeder.de/int/gbint.html> shows that great care
was taken to translate the Tom Marvolo Riddle = I am Lord Voldemort
anagram into foreign languages.

Is Tom Riddle's middle name _really_ "Elvis" in the French books?

Elvis???

[drusilla]

Post by gjw

Post by Green-Eyed Chris
A look at <http://www.eulenfeder.de/int/gbint.html> shows that great care
was taken to translate the Tom Marvolo Riddle = I am Lord Voldemort
anagram into foreign languages.

Is Tom Riddle's middle name _really_ "Elvis" in the French books?
Elvis???

French Wiki says his grandfather was "Elvis Marvolo Gaunt"

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_Marvolo_Gaunt

[Toon]

Post by gjw

Post by Green-Eyed Chris
A look at <http://www.eulenfeder.de/int/gbint.html> shows that great care
was taken to translate the Tom Marvolo Riddle = I am Lord Voldemort
anagram into foreign languages.

Is Tom Riddle's middle name _really_ "Elvis" in the French books?
Elvis???

And Tom can't die. So, JK believes Elvis is still alive. :P

[gjw]

Post by Toon

Post by gjw

Post by Green-Eyed Chris
A look at <http://www.eulenfeder.de/int/gbint.html> shows that great care
was taken to translate the Tom Marvolo Riddle = I am Lord Voldemort
anagram into foreign languages.

Is Tom Riddle's middle name _really_ "Elvis" in the French books?
Elvis???

And Tom can't die. So, JK believes Elvis is still alive. :P

At the end of book 7, perhaps the French translators can work in the
phrase: "Elvis has left the building"... ;)

[Toon]

Post by gjw

Post by Toon

Post by gjw

Post by Green-Eyed Chris
A look at <http://www.eulenfeder.de/int/gbint.html> shows that great care
was taken to translate the Tom Marvolo Riddle = I am Lord Voldemort
anagram into foreign languages.

Is Tom Riddle's middle name _really_ "Elvis" in the French books?
Elvis???

And Tom can't die. So, JK believes Elvis is still alive. :P

At the end of book 7, perhaps the French translators can work in the
phrase: "Elvis has left the building"... ;)

What about Elvis impersonators? Will V make his DE's drink Polyjuice
Potion? Even Saddam had look alike decoys. Is that truly Voldemort?
Or Papa Crabbe or Goyle?

[chimaera]

Post by blue
Does anyone recall as I haven't reread Book 6, what happened to Snape's
mother, Eileen Prince? Snape is halfblood, who was the Muggle, his mother or
father (I can't remember- it was his father, right?)(I don't have access to
my Book 6 right now)
I'm sure this has been speculated on before...is Eileen Prince alive? If it
was said in the books that she died is it really possible she's alive? And
if it was not said that she'd died, I'm going to the same place with this
question- Irma Pince, the Hogwart's librarian: anagram for Im A Prince. Acts
similar to Snape in some respects. Could it be she is his mother or a
relation?
I noticed in one of my rereadings of one of the books, forget which one, 4
maybe, Snape sees Harry outside with a Quidditch book and takes points from
Gryffindor because students are not allowed to have books outside the
castle. (This doesn't make sense since they carry their bags and whatever
books they hold off to herbology and Care of Magical Creatures. but oh well)
Irma Pince is notorious for guarding the library books and demanding high
care be taken of them. Any relation here?

I think it's very likely that Irma Pince is going to turn out to be
Eileen Prince. I could practically hear Rowling chortling as she
wrote the scene where the librarian sees Harry's heavily-annotated
Potions book and, thinking it a library book, practically has a
seizure, then chases him out of the library, whacking him with his own
bookbag all the way. I'm sure she was thinking, "If only Madame Pince
knew that her own son had desecrated that book!"

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Post by blue
I'm sure this has been speculated on before...is Eileen Prince alive? If it
was said in the books that she died is it really possible she's alive? And
if it was not said that she'd died, I'm going to the same place with this
question- Irma Pince, the Hogwart's librarian: anagram for Im A Prince. Acts
similar to Snape in some respects. Could it be she is his mother or a
relation?

Oh man, I really wish I owned the movies right now.

After I read this, I did an image search for the actress who plays
Madam Pince (Sally Mortemore), and this was the second image that came
up:

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I hope the link works for you all; if not, the picture is of Pince and
Snape sitting next to each other at the teachers' table, Pince looking
at the camera with a mysterious smile on her face.

I never paid attention before to who sits next to who at the teachers'
table- does Pince always sit next to Snape? If she just sat next to
him once then I don't think it means anything, but if she sits next to
him every time, that's kind of interesting. Does anyone who has the
movies know?